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... I will once again say I didn't say anything negative about this card. But chuck..don't throw stones if you live in a glass house man...embarrasment, lol. You would be surprised how many people agree with what I have to say..do you want to be an ultimate street fighter chuck? anyways.. Cronk Liles 2 went pretty much how I thought it would. Good job on both fighters parts. I liked how they hyped the fight and it sounds like it paid off well. Hera there was some controversy with teh chickering fight. Anyone who was there should give us some more insight. Lumumba is sounding like he is for real. We need ot see him compete with the next level of competition now. Another win for Muir, but didn't he already face Titus before? Or am I thinking of someone else? Sounds like a good card by the NME folks. It sounds like they listened finally to what people had to say about problems they had. They have a new venue which sounds like paid off, new mathc makers, which sounds like paid off, and working with RMBB seems like it gave the boost they needed. I will say congrats on the sucess. good job, but of course leave it to chuck to come on here and talk trash and say stupid crap like "you're an embarrasment to the sport and this website". Yeah i think some people go over board with the dislike for NME, but to say s**t like that, when, well when honestly your record has been less then steller, and many people involved in MMA in COS think that you are an embarresement, is rather foolish. but good job NME. |
ChrisZacher
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... for this being a NME basing site everyone seems to have good things to say about last night. seeing as how you can't hear sarcasm on a computer thats what that was cuz lord knows i don't need NME or chuck daley on my ass, he seems busy enough with Zacher. and the show last night was a good one for NME, hell of a drive but it was alright. |
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... Donnie Liles- enough said! Pretty good fights, the Muir v. Titus was a rematch of their last fight, same result again. Trujillo seemed to be winning his fight, was on top with some GnP and the ref stopped them for blows to the back of the head, he went to restart the fighter and Chickring stayed down- ref called the fight. Tough way to lose/win a fight. Saw security tossing a few guys out but overall a pretty good crowd. |
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... thanx to all the fans for the support ... Thanx to john for taking the fight . and thanx to all those who came out to support the sport... hope to see you all my next time out much respect!!! Donnie |
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... all right yall here is my report on the fights..i had a few of my buddys fighting on this card so here is what i thought about it::: 1st is Titus vs Muir.. it was a un eventfull fight for titus, but the messed up part was after Muir won he pointed his finger at titus and said som words to him. and for you guys that think chuck runs a Ultimate Street Fight is wrong. He Chewed Muirs ass out. Next I Lumumba...all i have too say is I TOLD YOU SO!!! Then Trujillo vs Chickering.. Trujillo being a 185er took it to chick slamed him hard then mounted him and beat him bad.. but chick rolled over and got hit in the back of the head. they Dq Joe.. but the funny thing is, Chick won his Last fight like that to.. He ethier has to learn to cover up better or controll the person on top of him bcuz that is BS for him to win that way twice in a row plus get a freakin title from it. Then when i really lost respect for him, was when he was trying to say he was not happy with the win, yet he was prancing around in the back like he just beat Fedor. Last is the one u been waiting for.. Donny won hands down no if ands or buts about it. He stucked to his game plan, controlled cronk, they both looked gased towards the end of the first, but donny kept the pressure on Cronk, wore him down, and got the W. Also me and Donnie talked after the show.. like civallized ppl..it was nice.lol |
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... i was very disappointed with the main evvent cronk is as bad as his last name. I cant beleive he talked so much s**t for 2mo i started to believe the hype. Please don't believe the hype. He is truly not a good fighter and liles out classed him in every aspect, dude got tired in the first 30 seconds, i dont care how long he has been fighting or were or who, he needs to not do it anymore. To think they made his ugly ass the poster boy for the promotion. Should have took your bet cronk but your uglyness swayed me into thinkin you might be tough. Good job to gallardo he represented and has come a long way much respect to him for puttin the beat down. But to all the out of town fighters that tried to come to the bars and act tough, I saw you guys starting trouble and acting tough, but then that all changed and you guys bitched out and ran into the wrong crew. |
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... WTF does a bar have to do with the cage? It is dumb ass moronic f**ktards with that mentality that give the sport a bad name. Lack of discipline is akll it is. If someone was in the bars posing they arent real mma fighters anyway. They are thugs and will get their asses handed to them by a real fighter in the cage. I bounced for half my damn life and seldom ran into a real tough guy in the bar. Mostly wanna be tough guys who would only fight if their hommies were there with them. This is an MMA site not a bar room brawler site. |
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... yeah, I agree with Mr Musclemaker, sometimes man, just sometimes MMA atracts the, well you know, a certain type of fighter. I would say donnie is a good poster boy, I mean look at other orgs. it's a local event. Donnie shouldn't take that s**t to heart, even if his gas tank didn't last. Either way. |
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... And for the record I went to the bars, and it wasnt the fighters fighting, it was mostly the hyped up drunk patrons. usually thats how it is, the fight community in this stae is for the most part, pretty good about keepin it in the ring, its the non-fighting, drunken wannabees, who walk around thinking their ten feet tall afterward that makes it hard for the rest. AND I MIGHT ADD, GIVE OUR GOOD FANS IN PUEBLO A BAD NAME. |
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... Huge Props to NME, RMBB, Chuck and all invovled in this event. Great card, loud fans, lots of support. 2 BIG KO's, 5 sets of stiches. Every fighter I talked to after the show was respectful of their opponents - win or lose. Too bad for Chick with another KO by illegal strikes. Between those and opponents not showing up at weigh-in this guy hasn't had a chance to show what he's made of. Someone please step up and let get a real fight on for him. |
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... Screw all you guys that think these guys that fight in your promotions dont act tough were ever they go, thats all you heard was im this champ im that champ im this tough im that tough, i was a fan at the fight and later went to enjoy myself and saw all these guys starting trouble and acting tough and two of them were your so called world champions. Trust me it was not the patrons at the bar. |
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... oh man........First of all as most of you know......my fighters and myself are very humble and dont even talk about what we do unless we are asked! We dont go round town with our chest out bumpin peeps......so get over yourself dude. I think that maybe you were a overzealous and got your ass handed to you by a real fighter. im sorry for that. well not really. I wouldnt go play golf with tiger woods. So dont try to fight with trained fighters jack ass. Second, Let me make some things very clear. I was the opponent that was set to fight CHICK. Chick is a very cool guy and hes has my upmost repect as a fighter and a person. He has had a tough couple fights that many would call contriversal. I would agree that the outcomes were weak for both people. I feel that giving him the title through default is wrong. IT SHOULD BE OPEN. With that said Joe was a great match and went up in weight for that fight. I honestly believe that I can beat Chick. And depending on when my knee heals that fight will most likely happen. Unless he loses that belt. My plan is to take one more am fight only cause my knee then to go pro. So when you said "Too bad for Chick with another KO by illegal strikes. Between those and opponents not showing up at weigh-in this guy hasn't had a chance to show what he's made of. Someone please step up and let get a real fight on for him." People have steped up and they lost because of PANIC.....When my knee is healed you can bet your ass that im coming for that belt. TO CHICK: Im not talking s**t bro just saying how it is. your my boi and I have alot of respect for you. IT WILL BE A GREAT FIGHT. Good luck on your upcoming fights |
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... so whats up with my man psyco trashin cronk..? come on bro ! look its like this to say all thet about that dude is just wrong..you think hes not tough you try to fight me for ten min at that pace and not get finished RESPECT! that was the first time i was out of the first round in like 12 or 13 fights...John is tough .. and for the record all the talk between us was not hype ...he pissed me off i pissed him of and we talked trash....but in the fight in that moment the talk is over its time to go to work he showed respect and it was returned to him that is how it should be done .above all else i try to alwaays be respectful..but im a knuckle head so sometimes its hard ...but to trash a guy after he loses a fight .....not cool ...just my 2 cents ...Donnie |
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... great thing to say donnie, its what makes you the person you are. great fight by you doesnt make john a bad fighter.i would go see john fight anytime. ive known him for 20yrs and have seen a lot of good fights from him. im sure we will see the same in the future. congrats to you for your win,youve earned it.lol |
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... psychofan, If there was acutally a fight involving the fighters I didnt hear about it and I apologize. So where was it? If it was at zippers I would know, because my conditioning coach wes is the big scary balck security guy. If it was at phils, I would know, because Ourlightweight fighter haven is the security there, other than that the fighters were all at showtime, and I was there. I DID SEE ONE FIGHT THERE |
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... but it wasnt the fighters cause i was right there. that being said I have been around this scene for years bro, and honestly I feel that for the most part around the state we have a good group of guys involved in mma. Everyone is respectful, everyone is gracious in both victory or defeat. It is about HOW YOU conduct yourself, I am always welcomed at every promotion by fighters, coaches, and their camps, because I give them a lot of open respect, a big smile, and am genuinely interested in the well being, and professionalism of the sport. Even when there is a little hype as in the liles and cronk fight you can see above that we are all good peeps. So im sorry if your experiences have been bad, but once again from reading deeper using my old school hood telepathy, your post comes off less than respectable itself, this is how it looks to the outside eye: "yah cuz, dem punk ass bitches tried to roll up on us, but my crew was bout to go straight gangsta, so dem punks done boned the hell out!" less than cordial wouldnt ya think? As a coach, fighter, and firm supporter of this sport, I hope that pueblo continues to embrace these events, and if what you say is true, i hope our fighters will raise the bar, and conduct themselves accordingly. peace. gabriel charboneau. |
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... Well if he (Joe) was an accomplished fighter for a belt then he would of known not to hit Chick in the back of his head. Good job to Chickmon!! At least he has been a stand up fighter and never went for the cheap shot!!! BREW CREW CPT. |
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... gabe you ought to know about that kinda talk because that was you runnin around pueblo gang bangin for years talkin just like that, and know all the suden your this great mma trainer, i remember you back in the day (latin acer),your a good escriva fighter ill give you that, stick to the sticks, and half these fighters fighting would not be s**t without a ref to stop the fight and a ring to protect them, this all started from street fighting and dont all you who fight in theis forget this all in the streets and still goes on today all you real hardcore colorado mmabuzz fans chk rioheros.com to glimpse of what im talking about, im talkin real fights, bare knuckle and two game mtf's gettin after it without a ref or a ring. A f*n fight real thats what im talkin about, f*ck the 4ft ring and the ref that stops a fight for a punch in the back of the head, wtf is that s**t, fuc the rules, who's really the toughest? Liles no disrespect you looked good in that fight me sayin cronk was weak is disrespectful to your good preformance.lol |
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... dude MMA is a sport, not a street fight. Two different things. you can't even compare them. If you watch MMA to see that kind of action you are looking in the wrong place. I suggest you check out Felony Fights, and maybe that will quench your thirst. Thats like insulting Boxing for not being like MMA. Two different things. I mean man, you see BJJ in street fights all of the time (sarcasim). You have to be a gimmick, lol |
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... MMA is a sport and not a street fighting is a differet animal. Some and i say some street fighters can be good mma fighters and some I say some can fight in the street. I grew up underground fighting and winning but the fighters i was beating were not conditioned, and only half or less were trained. Not saying the street thugs are not tough. Just saying in a cage most would get there asses handed to them |
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... Wow...that was a rivoting read. I must say, there is definitely some class in here. And some crap. Phycofan...first of all, you offend me. As a kid who grew up outside of Pueblo, CO (try New York), I got into more than enough street fights. As a bouncer in various clubs across the globe, I've gotten into more than enough street fights. Since I've started fighting in the ring/cage, I've gotten into all of...ONE street-fight, and I say thank goodness for all of my training. I don't need to skull-f**k you in order to show how good I am. If you come at me, I'll just put you to sleep and leave you there. No emotions involved whatsoever. Don't have to worry about breaking a knuckle, ripping my clothes, getting dirty...none of that. I'll just clinch, take your throat, and in less than ten seconds, you'll be rendered incapable of defending yourself. Imagine that prospect. You, completely vulnerable. I'd be completely free to do WHATEVER I WANT to you. I'm sure that sends a chill down your spine, now that you've stopped and let that marinate a bit. Your boys won't help you, either. Not that I would turn my back to them anyway, but I know my friends (who also train and fight in the ring)would do the same to them. And while you're chewing on that scenario, just imagine no emotional involvement whatsoever. Hell, with just a little bit of what we know, you'd be at a gross disadvantage stepping up to any of us who fight in a ring. Enough of that for now. The point I'm making to you is simple. In the words of DMX "Talk is cheap, MF!" If you're as hard as you think you are, buy some shorts, a mouthguard, and a cup. Call one of the promoters for one of their shows. Inform them of your "street cred". SHOW UP when it's time to fight in the ring, with a ref, and with gloves on. When you either have your trained opponent pulled off of your semi-coherent body by the ref, or you're awakened by the ringside physician, take off the gloves, get stitched up by the doc, then go back to your band of rough and tough street-fighters with your ass up on your shoulders. THANK YOU, COME AGAIN! |
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... yeah psycho your absolutely right. I did a lot of things when i was young that im not proud of. Actually that has always helped me, I know what its like to fight in the street and a ring unlike a lot of other schools ran by people who have never even been in a fight. I dont hide who i was, or who i am now. luckily I had a daughter when i was 15, became a real man, joined the army, went to college, and am man enough to raise my children to grow up better than I did. The secret to being a man is in his legacy, imma tell you something and i want you to please listen close... all a man leaves in this world is his legacy. How will you be remembered? I give a flying F$#% about being remembered as a baddass. I would way rather be remembered for the amount of love I gave to people, and as the guy who would give you the shirt off his back. It took me a while to learn that, but i hope you learn the same in time. Oh, and for the record my gangbanger buddies who I still call my friends? you know where they are??? locked up, cant do s**t for their family because of their choices. As for my creds, I have went over that before and there is no reason to rehash them, but i will say im the most credible coach in pueblo, (along with zamm) who i have a great deal of respect for. And as a fighter for 14 years now I have been the only one coming out of that corner when the say hailing from pueblo colorado the only one. I have fought all over and in every conceivable type of tournament. I dont understand why you are upset, bro. because I spoke the truth in saying that the fighters werent fighting? I was there I know what I saw, it sounds as if you have something personal against this promotion, but dont take it out on the fighters. its about raising the level of professionalism not petty stupid s**t. So you see that i have been forthcoming enough to leave my whole name so who are you? |
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... And I wouldnt change my past for the world, it made me a better stronger individual. I am still happy to call those "gangbangers" my friends, they made their choices, I made mine. if you would like to discuss this further I will be at the fighter tryouts at major fitness on saturday im sure we can come to an understanding. c-you there bro. |
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... Guys: You all need to settle down. This guy sees MMA the way that a lot of people do, as a human cock fight. The way a lot of people see boxing. These are the same people that think WWE professional wrestling is REAL. How many people do you see talking about how they could beat Randy Couture. Or Chuck Liddel would get "wasted" in a real street fight. The uninformed will always be out there. It doesn't help that people on the radio are still referring to it as "Ultimate Street Fighting." I'm sure everyone remembers Noah Thomas on the Ultimate Fighter trying to use MMA for a street fight. He got the back of his head cut open. The same happens when you see a guy with over 500 street fights get caught in a mount. They are out of their element. All everyone is doing here is egging him on. You're getting all rialed up for no reason. Drew, you especially! You know better than that. Mike, you should give Psychofan a "Keyboard Warrior" shirt. |
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... Im calm now.....lol........i do know better but i also know that he would not agree to that.........thats why it would bever happen but i do appoligize for lashing out. Im sure that he has had a hard childhood and is acting out. Your right phycofan783......we are a bunch of weeners. we would get beat up on the street with the homies.......the fact of the matter is that any true MMA fighter wouldnt involve themseves in a street fight. I respect our sport so im sorry for being dumb. Just do us all a favor and stick to the streets and we will stick to the ring........stay black gangsta |
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... you guys all misunderstand the point there are more guys trying to be a tough guy becuase they say they fight in the ring, when in reality they were never tough, anyone who is in the mma now and a great champ started steetfighting and they kicked ass, and thats what prompted them to go to the mma thing. You idiots misunderstand me completely just quit letting people get in the ring just so they can say they are a cage fighter. And then you messageboardies talk about these guys like they are world champs and mma legends because they beat some guy that never had a fight or has fought the same guys over and over. Humana i guess i have to admire a guy for changing his life for the best lol. why would you say your the best cornerman in pueblo, zamm maybe but what every dojo intown is lacking in a bad way is a wrestling coach, i watch all these pueblo fighters get rolled up on the ground. sorry to all the nerdy boardy's ill quit startin s**t with you guys, i do it on purpose to see what kinda rise i can get out of some the p**sies in the colorado/pueblo mma scene, and all you so called respectful/honorable/professional mma people, i sure got ya acting unlike your professional selves. Oh and by the way to people that need refs and a cage a fight is a fight!!! if your doing it in the cage or in the street its a fight dorks, and thats what people love the fight so don't try to come off like there is some major difference. |
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... Ever heard the saying it's not what you say, it's how you say it? Psychofan, I think I understand your point, but I think that most of it is lost in translation due to your unwarranted attack on the sport and the people involved in it. I will say this; people getting in the ring once or twice and believing they are legitimate badasses after some school put them in there after 2 months of traing is equally as bad as you saying that mma'ers would get handled in the street. These guys are right, most REAL mma'ers would have no problems in a street fight. Not proud about it, but I have seen friends of mine, who most people on here know of, get into a fight or two, and I assure you it was all bad for the other people involved. Just be respectful of people when making your points and you won't get these sort of responses, though you did say that this was what you wanted. That's sad. Vellore |
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... vellore gets my ponint well, my frustration may have come out in my words not making my point clear. vellore much respect. |
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... Phycofan783, hey bro I understood a lot of what you said as well, as the topic of fighter quality had been discussed at length in the discussion boards a while back. thats what sucks about the net sometimes, typed words are easy to mis-interpret. I would like you to give me a call 994-1176, I would be interested in speaking with you, maybe i can answer some of the questions you have. we are doing the tryouts in p-lo tomorrow. there will be a couple of different teams there coaches from around colorado, and even a couple promotors. give me a holla bro, we are working to change this unprofessional perception and also the perception of pueblos fans fighting in the stands and bars as well. lata. |
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... Well looks like some peace for NME for a while, now that we have street fighters/bar brawlers/thugs stabbing on mma lol.All i have to say to these guys is dont bag on mma,its a great fight sport.Some guys will need to grow up ,both mma and beginners but it is a way to keep fighting positive without results of getting arrested.If you loved to fight! mma is the way to turn negative into something positive for your life.Just the training alone will create a respect.Not just streetfight but boxing,wresting,muai tai..and all mixed martial arts.So let the badasses think there badass till they get beat down.Well see how long they last,i bet it wont be for to long.Maybe they will grow up after learning the hard way.(That there not a badass after all) peace |
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